Richard C B

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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  Richard C B

  @ punkofnice Thanks for debating with me I can see you are reasoning and thats what Im trying to do, and I agree with you that if a person where to state that the watchtower ppl are a cult then they would have to say all religions are cults based on our reasoning.

  @Bonsai, you are missing the point of the topic its not about scripture integrity.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  Then that comes down to interpretation of scripture, sorry to be awkward im not trying to be but it still dosnt argument the case for it being a cult. on that basis you would have to say all religions are cults then we would have to do away with the concept of religion all together and just call them all cults.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  @Bonsai Sorry to here about your about your families health problems and dont want to upset you, but it says in the new testament to abstain from blood and laws where giving to Noah after the flood on proper use of blood. So your argument cannot establish a cult status. Thanks for your input
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  There a still no strong argument to establish The wathtower as a cult only on an individual leval can this be concluded. As to policy's that may be flawed this can only be used as ammunition for disgruntled ex witnesses to excuse themselves. So for now my opinion remains the same. Im still open to debate on this.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  Very relivant points from punkofnice which kind of backed up my points from the topic starting post.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  2+2=5 sorry to here that about your family circumstances. no 2+2=5 i wasnt suggesting that bitterness is the only reason thats why I put if up for debate but bitterness could be a reason for some. Im trying to define how we differentiate cult status as applied to a religion, and expanding the debate. Thanks again for your input
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  Yes excellent point Cofty. I see what your saying there about the "groupthink" scenario.

  There is a negative conitation in your reasoning about "groupthink" or unity of thinking. This is not always the case. Can you expand your reasoning to apply that to religion
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  @punkofnice ok, but what led up to your personal conclusion? if you dont mind me asking.
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  2+2=5,, I think you missed the point of the topic, but thanks for your input
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  225

  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Richard C B

  @ cofty, Every religion has cultish features. Every member gives up some measure of intellectual freedom in order to be part of the group.

  Yes i agree with you but this principle could be applied to none religious pursuits.

  What about a professional footballer for example, he would have to give up certain freedoms to be part of the team and be governed by rules I.E he would have to abstain from over excesses and stick to fitness regime. we could say then this has cultish features.

  @ punkenice I agree with you its very much an individual choice so your point that the watchtower is dangerous and delusional is conflicting with your point.